Why The Ancient Greeks Couldn't See Blue

Because God loves the Infantry.

When he said "Himba from Namibia" I felt represented 🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦

Noticing is voluntary

Orange is just a very light brown.

Really good talk, I thought. Fascinating.

I don't know about ancient Greeks but now we are ok

1:53 is this where ‘rainbow order’ came from??

Maybe the sky was like jojo part 4

what a load of shit

Could this be part of the reason women seem to see more colors than men? Because they have been “trained” with more color names and such?

Thiw is the stupidest thing I have heard. I am Greek and at school at 3 class of junior highschool we have subjct called Helene(Ελενη) from Euripidis(Ευριπιδης). At the book which is exact translation of the ancient text, at a scene a caractere named Menelaos(Μενελαος) sayw that he was travelling at the wide blue sea. So thiw video says bullshit and I hope nobody takes it seriously.

Was anyone else, by the end of this video, like, looking at the sky or the guys blue shirt and be like: well, yep, that totally looks just like a brighter shade of black though...

For them it was probably just like the colour of air

If only there were a language where learners could tell the nouns from the verbs, and the adverbs from the adjectives just as soon as they started learning it... oh wait there is!

I think that this is more than just interesting, and it is that. But moreover, this finding has serious implications for what has become of American English today, particularly among younger people , people who are addicted to texting and social media,who like to speak in initials and abbreviations. For many people, our language has become tremendously simplified. For example, the word “awesome“ almost has no meaning at all, when it used to mean something that was really awe-inspiring. The same simple words are used these days over and over. People have become lazy, perhaps - whatever it is, many people are not learning to use synonyms, they are not making the effort to use language to define nuances. So what you are saying is that this simplified use of language also makes people’s minds “simpler” e.g., dumber - Maybe less capable of understanding complex ideas. If so, I find that scary. We live in a very complicated world now, and we need for people to be able to perceive and understand complex ideas. And it starts with an understanding of our language.

One correlation in the development of language could also be the way human's vision develops. When babies are born, they first see black and white, with red being next, followed by yellow, green blue.

I like how he is talking about a blind man about colors

Description: *This BLUE my mind*

Basically they didn’t have the word blue?

Lol the ancient Egyptians developed what is called Egyptian blue from calcium copper silicate, a natural resource found in the Nile Valley. Some of the oldest examples are displayed in the temple reliefs of Pharoah Ka-Sen of the first dynasty in the Old kingdom more than 5000 years ago. Approximately 2500 years before Greek civilization began.

For the same reason as with pink, I definitely think we should have separate words for "blue" and "light blue", "green" and "light green", etc.

I just found out that in this vid, langfocus also briefly mentioned how people speaking defend languages perceives colors, interesting how the vid is basically a rant but has very good info in it itvid.net/video/video-XxWhXyeFYjc.html

Because Greeks all had brown on the mind. being you know....

greek gang where u at

Am twice the age of this kid and he is amazing .

Because that’s the order in which we see them, the electromagnetic spectrum and all that

Comparing it to language was very helpful. My ex is Lao so I was constantly exposed to the language (I also was exposed to similar languages like Thai a lot). At first it was just gibberish to me. I still don't understand a word (okay, I know like 4 words), but I can tell when it's Lao being spoken as opposed to Thai bc of certain patterns I picked up on over time.

I mean, scp-ex sky blue sky right?

......They still can see blue

I am colorblind. This was weird.

@AsapSCIENCE I could barely see the light green circle. It was only after you pointed it out to me that I saw it. Interesting.

This is called the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis of Ethnolinguistics. You got something wrong, and repeated it many times: people whose language don't have a word for a colour (for example "blue") can still tell the difference between blue and any other colour BUT... If you ask them "what is that colour?", they don't have a different word to tell it apart. And, if you give them three objects, lets say a blue scarf, a green ball and a black paper, they would know they have three different colours, but if you ask them later "what colour was the scarf?" they wouldn't remember, and would tell you either green or black...

you did not answer the prime question , perhaps you should do a part 2

They didn't have words for these colors.

The ancient Greeks had contacts with Egypt and at least there, blue is the most important colour, that's why I find that hard to believe. We are all humans, greeks included, and can see the same spectrum...

ancient indian used to cultivate indigo crop which gives them blue,, so it isn't an absence of that color

Orange is also the same colour as red, just a lighter version. Both are from magenta and yellow light combined. So you'll equally find orange missing from early cultures. The early cultures probably saw blue as a sort of grey. Somewhere between white and black. And they would have had very few actual grey objects. The exact classification of colours probably coincides with the more exact mixing of colour for representational painting.

In old comic books black was shaded blue to show shade differences. Superman's hair would be black and blue and Batman is shown as wearing a blue costume though it is black the the blue is supposed to show light shining on the black

People who had NDE'S claim to have seen colors that don't exist yet. I imagine if we could adjust our eyes surgically we could see a lot more colors that have always been around us, but we didn't know it.

not that odd , the american indians had no word for black , they considered it a dark shade of blue ! so the black hills of south dakota , are actually the blue hills !

This video is nonsense. They had other words to describe the color that resembles blue.

While the Ancient Greeks didn't have a general colour called "Blue", they did have words which conveyed the colour. For example, the sky (ουρανός) and ocean (ωκεανός) describe the colour blue. The word "cyan" (κυανό) comes from the Greek word for ocean. There is also the word ουράνη which is the Greek word that describes the colour of the sky and is directly derived from it. So, it's not actually true that the Ancient Greeks didn't have a word for blue - they had many different words for the different hues of blue.

Numbers 15:38 uses the Hebrew word tchelet תכלת, which is the Ancient Hebrew word for the light blue color of the sky. The term occurs quite frequently in the Hebrew bible. There's some half-truths in this.

But Quran have mentioned many colors Also *blue*

There's a tribe of South American Indians living in the Amazon rainforest that make no cultural distinction between green (like the forest canopy) and blue (like the sky) and use the same word for both colors.

I wonder this about eastern European languages that have two different words for light and dark blue (eg Russian сений and голубой) and in German, for example where there's a distinction between what we would consider pinks; 'pink' and 'rosa'.

Animals can see color. It would be interesting to know what words they use for them.

The Heblue Bible? (lol)

The implications are endless...

I was about to comment about Egyptian blue but nope! He covered that too😂

Our language has trained our brains in a million crazy ways 😳

I often argue with my mother about our carpet, my mother said it's green, I saw it black.

In Thailand Many senior people, especially in the country side will call 'blue' as 'green'

Why don't you just check Japanese and Turkish? Maybe Korean, too. I think you might find a difference. There's this word "Aoi" in Japanese which represents the sky color, so is the word "Gök" is used for color blue and the sky in old Turkic. I don't know Korean so I cannot tell for sure, but please do check the others. (P.S: I'm suggesting not because I know it for sure, but because I know some texts one of which is Orkun scripts for Turkish and you can find many Japanese text of the early scriptures they've written after they got the alphabet from China. And maybe Chinese as well. They keep almost everything written.

Did no one have blue eyes back then?

Its 2021 stop being a colourist Every colour exists 😤

They never had a word for Orange they was never a word for Orange until Victorian times. The more you know.😊

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This is weird i heard an spanish channel copy this idk

Now I'm overthinking colors

Blue is my fav color 😁

This is really dumb. Maybe the Greeks just didn't have a word for blue. Doesn't mean they couldn't see it. English doesn't have a word for schaudenfreude, but we all recognize the emotion.

Ancient Hindu epics do mention about blue colour.

What about Tekheleth in the Hebrew Bible?

What?

If you haven't got the word you can't name it. Language comes before fact.

Or is the Pink a form of white?

Name it 😁

OMG!!!!!!! Are you for real? Ok Homer uses the words γλαυκός (light blue,the color of the Sky or the sea and also Goddess Athena) and κυανός (dark blue,deep water etc).Both words are still in use in the modern Greek,but not so often as the word blue (in modern Greek μπλε).When we know that they used blue colors for buildings,sculptures etc and they were surrounded by the sea,you think it's possible to not have a word for that color?You are doing great videos but this time you ....well lets say you didn't do your best.

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I was watching this video at night; and at around 2:30 I heard music and it really freaked me out. Then I paused the video and the music stopped.

In painting we didnt see actual blue pigments as a part of palettes until the the gothic palette when azurite became common in the 1600s. If you think or Rembrandt, Carrvagio, or any of the old masters you can surely remember blue in their works somewhere, but in actuality the blue you remember is by definition a shade of grey. it is black and white mixed together to create a blue effect in contrast with the colors around it. The renaissance palette. Makes since that people of that time would refer to the blue sky as black.

This guy has way, way too much time on his hands. Six minutes of my life that I'll never get back. Now I am left feeling...blue.

Which is not so precise: the "glaukòps" for Athenas' eyes, means literarly "cerulean", that is "light bluish"... Second: the proper-called blue hues (namely "kyanos": our cyan: which nowaday's a light blue, that is "cerulean", apropos of meaning shiftings according to times and cultures...), as for in the tonality of navy, was not so well distinguishable from black: for example, other indoeuropean cultures such as the hindus named black and blue with the same term (neelam). Though, they surely knew the proper hue value for real blue, being their blue pigment gotten from the afghani lapis... For instance, the very problem was alive among other cultures as well: for example, you state that egyptians knew of blue, but indeed they didn't named the sea with a blue term, but GREEN. Same substitution did japaneses and chineses. So, no wonder if Homer calls the sea "deep wine red"... Last, greeks surely knew the dark blue color, as much as they had long terms contacts with Egypt as had also cretans from old age. Simply, they didn't extensively USED blue, mostly 'cause it was considered an ill-fated color (giving cold sensations at sight). Same did the romans, who considered blue-eyed people "barbarians" and bringer of ill-fate. It was the christian culture who substituted the red/purple with the blue in importance (specially in the holy depictions), 'cause it is a color which didn't excited people and surely less expensive than reddish pigments.

What Nonsense! 😉

Blue is a primary color though

In finish is pink a hue with red!

orange in most european languages, not even having its own name:

Language trains our brains to see colors differently. So that's why racism is such a formidable foe

I asked people from Paraguay who knows the old guaraní language, they do have a word for blue "ovy"but not for green using "verde "from spanish. I think you should keeping on research for an explanation because is not clear to me why this

The hungry yugoslavian commercially force because currency noticeably plan near a yellow iraq. stimulating, annoyed pet

Japanese is different. Although they have a word for green, it's more recent and less used than their word for blue. So in japanese they aren't "green apples" or "green traffic lights" they are "blue apples" and "blue traffic lights".

Yes, the BLACKS in Egypt knew blue. Egyptian is not a race it’s a nationality, they are blacks on the pyramids. Don’t be afraid to admit what’s true.

This was a very interesting video. I'm now wondering if recognizing normally unnoticeable shades of colors would be good for brain health much like learning a new language is.

"Black and white are all I see in my infancy. Red and yellow then came to be." - Maynard James Keenan

My sister has a degree in Gemology, and this completely explains how she was trained to be able to name colors differently while she was in school.

What an incredibly interesting video. I am so glad this got recommended.

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More history videos pleassssssssseeee

I've got the conspiracy theory that we don't use color names (I can give you a dozen words for distinct tones of red in castillian that we simply don't use, and also for us venezuelans dark blue and light one is just "azul" while for argentinians they are "azul" and "celeste" (Perhaps because their flag is that particular shade)) because "they" (Whatever leads our society) want or need us to loose contact with reality, to be poor in words that breeds poorness of thought

Damn, this is interesting

I cannot picture wine dark as anything but wine red.

Blue is a symbol of remembering and keeping God’s commandments in the Bible. In this evil world, it’s no wonder blue is the last color to be introduced.

Black and white are All I see, in my infancy Red and yellow then came to be

Technology Connections goes into same thing with Brown, and it's crazy

Great job with this video. Pretty sure all the info for the video was obtained from the "colors" episode from RADIOLAB. In my opinion one of the best episodes. If you don't know what Radiolab is... Go listen to that episode, now!!!

If someone said the sky was grey or black it could have been due to volcano , storm clouds, humidity or in need of glasses such as was in my case. It also could have been weather such as in Alaska where you have 6 months of gloom. I guess that word could be used as a color?

Interesting that the color creation falls in line with visual spectral wave length shift.

I don't disagree with the part on the brain's pattern matching but I think the universality of the evolution of color terminology is suspicious and likely a result of bias, small sample size, and cherry-picked data. I also believe the ancient Greeks knew blue as a distinct color since they traded with the Egyptians for it and I doubt they would have prized "just some other shade of green". The research paper relies on the researcher's map of foreign culture's color terminology into English which is subjective and easily manipulated to produce a desired result. For instance they outright discard every language's shades of hue, thus arbitrarily labeling a spectrum of colors by one modern Western/English color, and then proceed to draw conclusions based on this manufactured mapping. They seem to want to support this notion that universally all humans follow a linear progression of development that eventually leads to something like English. Of course the fact that English is lacking in the degrees of hue that other languages developed naturally is of no consequence since that doesn't support the idea that all humans follow the same linear path of progress. If "green honey" sounds odd I believe it's not because they saw honey as green but because we fail to understand their color terms as they did in their proper context.